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DR CHRISTOPHER TWELVES SUPPLEMENT

DR NEIL LOVE: Dr Goldberg referred to another encouraging ASCO report on a Phase II trial of oxaliplatin and capecitabine. I met with the principal investigator of this study Dr Christopher Twelves to learn more about what might be an efficacious alternative to FOLFOX, which is much easier to administer. Dr Twelves began our conversation by summarizing the key findings from his presentation.

DR TWELVES: We treated 96 patients altogether across a whole range of countries in Europe. So, it was a very broad-based study. And one thing I emphasize is that, although it was a Phase II study, this wasn’t a single-center study in highly selected patients. This was conducted across a range of different centers. So, the results are, I think, all the more impressive for that in that the key criteria and the key end point that we set ahead of time was the objective response rate. What we saw with the combination of Xeloda and oxaliplatin was an overall response rate of 55 percent. This is very much in line with what we would expect with intravenous 5-FU/oxaliplatin, and I think we feel that these are really very robust data, because they’re from multiple sites in a large study population.

DR. LOVE: What did you see in terms of toxicity?

DR TWELVES: The treatment’s well tolerated. In Europe, in particular, we’ve been familiar with using 5-FU/oxaliplatin for many years now. The combination of the fluoropyrimidine and oxaliplatin typically causes neuropathy as its main side effect, and that’s a slightly unusual toxicity for many people who are used to treating colorectal cancer. But once you become used to this sensory neuropathy, how to identify it, and when to reduce or to stop the oxaliplatin, it’s easily recognized and easily treated.

The side effects that we saw with substituting Xeloda for 5-FU in the combination with oxaliplatin were principally this neuropathy. We also saw some diarrhea. If we look for a difference between our regimen and the IV 5-FU/oxaliplatin, I think a key difference is that we saw very much less myelosuppression. So, the newer combination is much less myelosuppressive than conventional 5-FU/oxaliplatin.

DR. LOVE: What do you think the reason was that there was such a huge difference in the incidence myelosuppression?

DR TWELVES: Well, you’re right, these differences in myelosuppression are really very striking and, I think, potentially important for patients, because we’re always concerned about the risk of infection in patients receiving palliative chemotherapy. I think the key difference is that 5-FU is much more myelosuppressive than Xeloda. We saw this in the single-agent trial, and it’s been followed through very clearly in the combination here. It really is very striking. We saw no grade IV toxicity with the Xeloda/oxaliplatin combination. In addition to the myelosuppression, which, as I say, we saw virtually no serious myelosuppression with the Xeloda/oxaliplatin combination, we only saw five patients receiving that combination who had any grade IV toxicity. So, this really is a very well tolerated regimen.

DR. LOVE: What about hand-foot syndrome? What did you see there?

DR TWELVES: Hand-foot syndrome, we were certainly very alert to, and we were concerned to manage this and to identify this carefully, because it is a toxicity that’s characteristic of and associated with Xeloda. But here, we were using a slightly lower dose of Xeloda than is recommended for the single-agent use. We saw only, I think, three percent of patients who got significant hand-foot syndrome.

DR. LOVE: What was the dose?

DR TWELVES: The dose of the Xeloda was 2,000 rather than 2,500 milligrams per meter squared. What is important when assessing the hand-foot syndrome is that only really a very small proportion of patients had any symptomatic, any functional impairment from that hand-foot syndrome.

DR. LOVE: Can you talk a little bit more about the neuropathy? You mentioned that you have a lot of clinical experience with oxaliplatin, of course, in Europe, in terms of the typical clinical course and how do you manage the patient in that situation?

DR TWELVES: I think it’s very interesting. When we’ve been used to using both 5-FU and irinotecan and 5-FU and oxaliplatin, we have developed a feel for the different toxicities. The striking thing with the combination involving irinotecan is that there is an incidence of diarrhea and an incidence of myelosuppression. We do see, not frequently, but occasionally, quite alarming toxicities with that combination.

By contrast, when we use oxaliplatin even with 5-FU, we see very much less myelosuppression, and we would see much less myelosuppression with Xeloda. But the main toxicity we do see is this sensory neuropathy. We are careful to speak to our nurses, speak to our colleagues about this, so that they recognize it, and also to speak to the patients and explain it to them.

For most of the patients, it simply reflects some numbness or tingling in their fingers. They may notice that they have to concentrate a little more to carry out fine tasks. But we also warn patients that there may be some more other unusual manifestations, often precipitated by exposure to cold. There is a portion of patients who, if they take a cold drink, get some spasm of their throat. Alarming, if they haven’t been warned about it, but we know it’s a characteristic, an uncommon but characteristic pattern of toxicity. Similarly, we hear of patients who, when they go to get something out of the refrigerator, get weakness or loss of use of their hand temporarily. Again, something which is alarming unless you’ve warned the patient that it may occur.

Because we were alert to these toxicities, to the neurotoxicity, one of the things that we saw in the combination study with Xeloda and oxaliplatin is that about a third of the patients did have to stop their oxaliplatin, and mostly as a consequence of their neuropathy. But what we were encouraged by was that even when we included these patients, and I should emphasize we included all the patients in these analyses we’re discussing, who didn’t receive the full planned course of oxaliplatin, we still saw this high response rate, encouraging time-to-progression data, and survival figures.

DR. LOVE: What’s the usual time course in terms of the neuropathy? When does it occur?

DR TWELVES: It’s a cumulative neuropathy, and it’s something that we question patients about. It occurs very rarely during the initial cycles. As you continue over a period of several months it becomes increasingly a feature. There are some patients who can continue treatment for six months without a significant neuropathy, but quite commonly over that period of time they do develop some neuropathy and, at that point, we’d withdraw or reduce the dose of oxaliplatin, and expect to see a gradual resolution of the neuropathy.

DR. LOVE: To what extent is it reversible?

DR TWELVES: It is highly reversible over a period of time.

DR. LOVE: One of the natural questions here is whether or not this combination or the 5-FU/leucovorin infusion and oxaliplatin combination could go into the adjuvant setting? Do you think that this neuropathy is going to be a significant deterrent?

DR TWELVES: I don’t. I think that this combination is really quite attractive in the adjuvant setting, partly because of the efficacy data. It really is quite striking now that the recent Intergroup study has shown in the comparison between 5-FU/irinotecan, 5-FU/oxaliplatin, and oxaliplatin/irinotecan, that there really are very good data showing that oxaliplatin is at least as effective as irinotecan, and arguably more effective as a partner for 5-FU. So, I think the efficacy data clearly points to the need to explore 5-FU or Xeloda in combination with oxaliplatin in the adjuvant setting. And the overall safety profile, I think, makes it attractive for patients receiving adjuvant treatment, and the neuropathy isn’t something that should be a substantial obstacle there.

DR. LOVE: When do you decide to stop oxaliplatin because of the neuropathy? What’s the usual? Is there just a quality-of-life issue or are there certain symptoms that you see and say, “Hey, we need to stop”?

DR TWELVES: I think we question the patients. We discuss it with them on a regular basis with each treatment cycle, and we get a sense of the pace at which they’re noticing some changes. But when patients are starting to get something functional – we’ll often hear patients say that they’re getting some numbness or tingling in their fingers, and then we’ll say to them, “Is it troubling you? Do you have difficulty doing your buttons? Do you have difficulty using a knife and fork or a pen,” and many of them will say, “Oh, no. No. No problems at all.” In which case, we’d be relaxed about it.
If they come back a few weeks later and they say that they’re starting to have some difficulty, that they’re aware their fingers are not as agile as they usually were, that’s the point at which we’d tease out whether they’re getting a functional impairment and then back off.

DR. LOVE: Now, you mentioned the Intergroup study, and I guess there’s always a certain hazard in trying to make indirect comparisons. But as you look at that, the arm in the study with oxaliplatin, and compare it to what you saw in your study with capecitabine and oxaliplatin, what did you see there? Did they look comparable to you?

DR TWELVES: They look highly comparable. And although comparing two different studies and this isn’t a randomized comparison, the fact that it’s a large study, that we have nearly 100 patients in the Xeloda/oxaliplatin Phase II, means that we have really quite tight confidence intervals. We have robust data. And I think that, insofar as one can make comparisons across trials, this is a valid setting in which to do so. So, the data that we see match really very closely the 5-FU/oxaliplatin data in the Intergroup study. But, also, if we look at the earlier 5-FU/oxaliplatin studies, the FOLFOX-4 study from Aimery de Gramont again, our data, if you stuck them side by side, look very similar.

The big advantage for the patients is in terms of convenience. We’ve spoken about the advantage in terms of reduced myelotoxicity, but I guess for the individual patient the key advantage is that they will need to come up to the hospital for their intravenous infusion of oxaliplatin, but the rest of their treatment will be taken at home. However, if the patients are having an infusional 5-FU regimen, many of them will require a central venous catheter. They’ll have to come to the hospital, in most cases, either to start or to finish the infusion, and some places even, the patient may need to stay in hospital for the duration of the 48-hour infusion. So, I think in terms of quality of life, substituting an infusional 5-FU with oral Xeloda is something that the patients are going to prefer.

DR. LOVE: Do you think that, at this point, it is rational to substitute Xeloda in these combinations as opposed to infusional 5-FU? Or do you think we need to see the comparative clinical trials before we take that action, clinically?

DR TWELVES: I think that’s a very interesting question, and one that I have slightly mixed feelings about. I think all the data that we’re seeing with Xeloda over recent years show that it is able to substitute for 5-FU, certainly given as a bolus, and almost certainly when given as an infusion, especially in combination with other agents. My personal feeling is that, in a few years’ time, there’s no reason why Xeloda shouldn’t have replaced 5-FU across the board.

How we get there is quite challenging. Clearly, we would be reluctant to see substitution on a purely ad hoc basis. It is important to explore these combinations accurately and carefully. But at the same time, it’s impossible to imagine that every single 5-FU regimen and every single 5-FU schedule and combination is going to be subject to a major randomized trial. So, common sense tells us that there has to be some kind of limit. With oxaliplatin, I think we would feel very confident that, if the regulatory authorities didn’t require a randomized trial, we would feel very happy making that substitution straightaway. I’m pretty confident, though, that a randomized trial will be expected by the regulatory authorities and, given the incidence of colorectal cancer, given the importance and the impact this will have in the population, that’s maybe not surprising. So, I think the answer is yes and no. Do I think we need the randomized trial to make the substitution or the decision? Probably not. Do I think it will be done? Yes, I do.

DR. LOVE: You talked about the approach to the patient who generally has a good performance status. What about the patient who has a poor performance status or the elderly patient? How do you think through that decision?

DR TWELVES: Although we’ve been talking about clinical trial patients, we’ve always got to bear in mind that clinical trial patients don’t accurately reflect the patients who come through our door on a day-by-day basis. I think it is now clear that combination chemotherapy, arguably with Xeloda and oxaliplatin a very strong contender, does represent the gold standard. That isn’t to say that the gold standard is appropriate, desirable or, indeed, would be chosen by every individual patient who has advanced colorectal cancer. And I think there will be a proportion of patients who are less fit, who don’t wish intravenous treatment, who will prefer oral treatments with a fluoropyrimidine, with Xeloda as an alternative.

And I think what’s maybe going to emerge in the coming years is that we will have two or more choices to give the patient. One will be a more intensive treatment with an impact on response rates, but also on survival in the form of the combination chemotherapy, but the other will also be a viable, attractive alternative, the single-agent Xeloda, which we know is effective. We know it’s well tolerated. We know that it can be taken at home. So, I think there’s a nice distinction and clear blue water, if you like, between these different approaches. And I don’t think a one-size-suits-all approach is going to be the best.

DR. LOVE: It’s interesting, you can look at clinical research data being presented at meetings or on paper, but also, I think, another perspective is how it plays out in clinical care. Can you pick out a patient, maybe, who you treated with this combination, either as part of this trial or elsewhere, that you could discuss with us as part of this program, to give us an example of how it plays out in clinical care?

DR TWELVES: I remember one gentleman in particular who came along to see me. He came along with his son, who was very well informed, was involved indirectly in medicine himself, and they’d clearly read around the literature. They’d come well informed with their documents off the Internet. And they decided that they preferred the idea of oxaliplatin to irinotecan, because they were concerned about hair loss, diarrhea and other significant toxicities. And this gentleman and his son were really very keen on combination treatment, because they wanted the best possible treatment for him — and he was a fit man, so this was appropriate. But they did prefer the sound of oxaliplatin rather than irinotecan.

He was a man in his sixties. He’d had his surgery some two or three years earlier and had adjuvant 5-FU treatment. And he’d then been well then, until he’d developed some discomfort in his abdomen, went and saw his general practitioner, his family doctor, and was then scanned and confirmed as having liver metastases. And his son was understandably very concerned about this. His son lived some way away from his father, came back to stay with his father and was obviously very keen to be there and part of that decision-making process.

DR. LOVE: Can you talk about how extensive the liver disease was and if there was disease anywhere else?

DR TWELVES: His only disease that we were aware of was in the liver, but it was extensive disease. He wasn’t suitable for resection of his hepatic metastases, which would have been the optimal treatment for the minority of patients where that is possible.

DR. LOVE: And what were his performance status and his specific symptomatology?

DR TWELVES: Well, he was reasonably well. He was a slim looking gentleman, but he’d always been fit and apparently had not lost a substantial amount of weight. He was a bit less energetic than he’d been previously, but he was still eating. He was still up and about, and he was still active. And when we did treat him – and we were fortunate in that at that time we didn’t have access ourselves to oxaliplatin, out with clinical trials, and we would otherwise have treated him with 5-FU/irinotecan. We were fortunate that we had the trial with Xeloda and oxaliplatin on our books and ongoing at that time, and that we were able to offer him participation in that trial.

DR. LOVE: You mentioned that he had some discomfort. Could you feel his liver?

DR TWELVES: Yes. His liver was enlarged. He was tender in the right upper quadrant when we examined him. But he was generally a fit and active man. And as he went through the Xeloda/oxaliplatin treatment, what was encouraging is that his performance status, which was good to begin with, was maintained and even improved. I think part of that was undoubtedly the discomfort in his abdomen was settling.

He found the treatment was well tolerated. He didn’t get the side effects that all patients receiving chemotherapy are concerned about. They are concerned, I think, that their quality of life is going to be affected and that they’ll be debilitated. But he was really very relieved and very pleased to see that he was able to maintain his lifestyle within the trial. We’d see him on a fairly regular basis. But he was having his treatment just once every three weeks with his infusion of oxaliplatin, and then was taking two weeks’ worth of his Xeloda tablets at home, which he was able to take himself, organize himself. I think, like a good many other patients, there was maybe a sense, with oral chemotherapy, that it’s something we do with the patients, rather than something that we do to the patient. I think many of them enjoy that sense of being involved.

DR. LOVE: That’s interesting. How did he compare his quality of life and the toxicity of therapy on that combination compared to the adjuvant therapy he had?

DR TWELVES: Well, the striking difference that he noted and that, I think, everyone who has had the standard that we were using at the time as adjuvant treatment — the so-called Mayo regimen, where patients are coming up on a Monday-to-Friday basis over five successive days — is the time at the hospital. And with the best will in the world, even if the infusion of chemotherapy takes only a very few minutes, there’s time spent waiting to receive the infusion, there’s time spent finding somewhere to park the car. Certainly, in our hospital, simply getting to the hospital through the traffic, finding somewhere to park the car, these can have a major impact on the patient’s quality of life. And if you’re spending five days out of every four or five weeks, to some extent with your day wrapped up or tied up around the hospital, then clearly there’s an impact on quality of life. And that’s obviously much preferable, if the patient is able to take their treatment at home.

DR. LOVE: Was he working at the time he was treating?

DR TWELVES: He wasn’t working, no. He was an active man who used to enjoy going out, getting out and about. He was an active walker. And as soon as his son had seen him started on the treatment, his son was able to go back down to his family and resume his normal lifestyle. So, as I think is often the case with patients with cancer, the diagnosis and its treatment affects more than just the individual. It was clear that the family was relieved and content when he was on treatment, when he was tolerating treatment, and that they were able to relax and back off a little bit.

DR. LOVE: What happened to the tumor in his liver with treatment?

DR TWELVES: He had a good response. He was one of the more than 50 percent who got a major response in terms of a reduction in the tumor masses on scanning. And as I say, that’s what we would expect to see with this combination in at least half of the patients. But I think that does also bring up another point that, of the patients who don’t get a major reduction, we’ve noted that about a third of all patients get stabilization or a minor reduction in their tumor. So, if we can expect at least 50 percent of patients, at least half the patients, to get a major response, on top of that another third get stabilization of their disease.

DR. LOVE: So, you’re talking about 80 to 90 percent of the patients with clinical benefit.

DR TWELVES: Yes. The bottom line is that when the patient comes back two or three months later, having had their repeat scan, less than one in four, maybe one in five of those patients, you’re going to have to tell them that the treatment has failed.

DR. LOVE: Now, again with this man, did the discomfort he was having in his right upper quadrant go away or get better?

DR TWELVES: Oh, yes. Yes. His liver that was palpable originally was no longer palpable. The discomfort that he’d experienced went away. He was very happy, and certainly, I remember that ahead of having his scan, he was hoping and expecting that he would indeed have benefited.

DR. LOVE: What about tumor markers?

DR TWELVES: His tumor markers, his CEA tumor marker came down, also. He had a strikingly high CEA tumor marker, into four figures, which came down, not to normal, but came down really very impressively. He subsequently did progress. He completed something over six months of chemotherapy. He remained off treatment for some months after that, but eventually his disease did progress. He was still keen for further treatment, and maybe reflecting on his favorable experience with the initial treatment, he was keen to receive more chemotherapy, and we treated him with irinotecan when he progressed. Again, he gained some benefit, rather less benefit than he had with his Xeloda/oxaliplatin, but he again gained some benefit from that.

DR. LOVE: How long was he off the oxaliplatin/capecitabine combination when he then progressed?

DR TWELVES: He was off his chemotherapy for about four months. So, he spent around six months on chemotherapy and four months off chemotherapy. But I think what’s important when looking at that balance of time, is that the six months that he spent on chemotherapy, he was maintaining his normal lifestyle. He wasn’t spending his time coming to the hospital, receiving multiple injections. He was at home, enjoying a good quality of life.

DR. LOVE: Did he have any neuropathy from oxaliplatin?

DR TWELVES: He developed some neuropathy. It wasn’t so severe as for us to have to stop the oxaliplatin. As we always do, we discussed with him the neuropathy in advance, and he would tell us how it had changed or hadn’t changed over each visit. But it was something that certainly didn’t cause him any distress.

It’s interesting when we look at the number of cycles that the patients received on average in the study, it’s interesting to see that the average number of treatment cycles was, in fact, 10. And this is something that we often look at when we’re first looking at trial data, we look at how many cycles of chemotherapy patients received. Clearly, if patients are benefiting from chemotherapy, the majority of them will complete or nearly complete the planned treatment course. If they’re not benefiting, either because the disease is progressing or their quality of life is affected, then they’re likely to fail to complete that number of treatments. And the majority of patients received almost that full course of treatment.

DR. LOVE: Interesting. Now, in this case, when he relapsed four months later you switched him to irinotecan. What happened after that?

DR TWELVES: He had some response. He’d been fit at the start of that and, even after completing that treatment, he was still reasonably fit and took part in one of the experimental drug treatment programs. Again, he was always keen to be involved, and a very well informed patient. And he died a few months ago.

DR. LOVE: So, he died a few months ago.

DR TWELVES: Yes.

DR. LOVE: At the time that he died, had you stopped therapy prior to that time, or was he getting treated with antitumor therapy?

DR TWELVES: He’d stopped therapy. He received the Phase I drug, but it was clear that his cancer had progressed through the Phase I treatment, and at that point he was less fit than he had been before. And we were quite keen to give him a period off chemotherapy at the end of his illness. And at that point, he was happy to concentrate more on the time at home with his family rather than receiving chemotherapy.
After he died, this patient’s son very kindly sent us a donation for our research funds as a token of both his father’s appreciation, but also that of the whole family.

DR. LOVE: As you look back on this case, what are the major teaching points that come out in your viewpoint of it?

DR TWELVES: I think the first thing is that we now have a range of different treatment options, and it really is a luxury that was unheard of just a few years ago. We now have a range of fluoropyrimidines – oral or intravenous 5-FU, so Xeloda or IV 5-FU. We have oxaliplatin, irinotecan, combinations, first or second-line. So, we now are faced with talking to our patients in a different way. They’re coming to us with information, and we need to talk to them in different ways to run through these options. So, I think the first key message is that we have new choices and new ways to treat these patients.

The second point is that patients receiving combination chemotherapy for metastatic colorectal cancer can certainly have a very good quality of life. There was a tendency, certainly, in the U.K. a few years ago, to wait until patients were really highly symptomatic from their disease before treating them. Increasingly, these days, we also, as many other parts of the world have done for some time, are treating patients who are less symptomatic at an earlier stage of their disease because we know we have more effective treatments, that they’re well tolerated, and that it’ll maintain their quality of life. So, there are more choices for the patients for us to discuss, and we can maintain their quality of life rather than wait until the patient becomes less fit.

DR. LOVE: It sounds like, as you look back on the almost two years that you worked with him, certainly that 10 months when he was getting oxaliplatin/capecitabine and then off therapy, it sounds like he had a very good quality of life and maybe even beyond that for a while. It sounds like, the way you described him at first diagnosis of metastatic disease, that you would think he probably wasn’t going to stay well very long.

DR TWELVES: Yeah. He was becoming symptomatic, and I think he’s the sort of patient who we stand to gain a lot with combination treatment. His disease wasn’t resectable, but he was fit. He was keen for such treatment. I’m sure that if we waited another six or eight weeks, he maybe would have been less fit. Our options might have been lesser, and maybe at that point oral Xeloda would have been an alternative, or intravenous 5-FU. But he was at the stage where he was becoming less well, but still certainly sufficiently fit to want combination chemotherapy.

DR. LOVE: What are some of the new developments in the treatment of rectal cancer that you think are important, both in terms of things that have been demonstrated in clinical trial and what you see coming down the road the next couple of years?

DR TWELVES: Well, it is a useful distinction to make between rectal cancer and colon cancer, especially in the treatment of early disease, especially in the adjuvant setting, where the benefits of adjuvant systemic treatment are rather less clear in rectal cancer than they are in colon cancer. If I was to take a guess at this, I think what we’re maybe most looking towards is the use of chemotherapy with radiotherapy in rectal cancer. And there’s clear potential to use fluoropyrimidines as radiosensitizers. But that’s been a little clumsy, in that it’s required either repeat bolus injections or intravenous infusions or continuous infusions, which really are not an elegant of a patient-friendly way of delivering 5-FU. I think one of the advantages of oral fluoropyrimidines is that you can give Xeloda either according to the classic two weeks of treatment-one week of rest, or you can explore different schedules and work those schedules around the radiotherapy patterns in treating patients with rectal cancer.

DR. LOVE: Of course, the other thing that’s interesting – I’m curious whether you think there’s a practical implication to this – is the observation that radiation therapy seems to potentiate TP, the enzyme that activates capecitabine. Do you think that’s an academic, laboratory finding, or do you think that really has some impact in terms of clinical care?

DR TWELVES: The proof will come through the clinical trials, but it is interesting, because this effect on thymidine phosphorylase and its effect on the enzyme TP may actually be very important. And it’s perhaps worth looking now to the breast cancer situation, where we’ve recently had really striking, very encouraging results in patients with metastatic breast cancer who were randomized to receive either docetaxel, which we would consider the gold standard for patients who have received a prior anthracycline. So, patients were randomized either to receive that alone or in combination with Xeloda. The striking improvement in survival that was seen, — statistically significant improvement in survival in the metastatic setting — was really more than we might have expected from simply adding a fluoropyrimidine. And the fact that we know docetaxel does have an effect on thymidine phosphorylase; this may be a mechanism by which you can increase the generation of active 5-FU within the tumor cell. Now, if this synergy is a real effect and if it can be demonstrated with radiotherapy to have a similar impact in rectal cancer, then I think that could be very exciting.

 
   

 

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